Johnny Eponymous ([info]johnnyeponymous) wrote,
@ 2008-05-05 09:53:00
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By the way...
The Handicapping the Hugos issue of THe Drink Tank is now out!

Thrill! to the un-sane predictions of Mr. Chris Garcia as to who will win!

Stare in Awe! at the comments from Niall Harrison that contridict Chris Garcia at every logical turn!

Gasp! at the Fan Hugo predictions!

Vomit in Terror! as Chris says that a Mainstream author should win Best Novel!

All of this is available on eFanzines.com!
Chris

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[info]trinsf
2008-05-05 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I just want to say right now that I *promise* that it was not my intention to deliberately bait [info]kevin_standlee. These things just . . . happen.

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[info]kevin_standlee
2008-05-05 07:11 pm UTC (link)
I'm not offended, nor did I feel especially baited. You are far more intellectually honest about your reasons than many of the other people who have weighed in on the subject.

I would, however, point out that the two times you were a Worldcon member, such as ConJose, you had a chance to make a difference the following year because your WSFS membership comes with nominating rights for the following year, at zero additional cost. As I and others have said to people complaining that not enough women are nominated for Hugo Awards, "Why aren't you nominating them?"

But if you don't think the awards are very important, then it makes sense for you to avoid having anything to do with them.

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[info]trinsf
2008-05-12 05:24 am UTC (link)
Why aren't I nominating them? Maybe I am, and they're not making the cut. *grin* But more seriously:

It's not that I don't think the awards are important; I just don't know that they have value to me personally. There are plenty of forms of recognition in the world that have value to other people, but not to me, and vice versa. I don't always see "the fannish community" as *my* community. It wasn't all that long ago that some portions of the fannish con-running community were putting considerable effort into making my subculture as unwelcome as possible at cons, after all. I have had fans tell me flat out "You're not welcome here. You and your kind don't belong in fandom."

As I've tried to explain, I come from "the personal is political" end of the spectrum. I recognize that there are some ways in which my intersection of interests with the fannish community is smaller than my intersection with the feminist community, the queer community, the leather community, the theological community. Could I nominate and press for more queer-identified theists to be recognized? Maybe. But maybe, it's not appropriate for me to push my agenda and my personal preferences on a community that doesn't share more than partially in my values or self-identity. I'm okay choosing that.

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[info]trinsf
2008-05-05 06:24 pm UTC (link)
Beeteedubs, at my request, they've put me on the Fanboy Etiquette Panel with Schachat, which is probably gonna be the best thing that happens to me all weekend.

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[info]baronlaw
2008-05-05 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Eeek, must write review. Damn fine print!

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[info]britgeekgrrl
2008-05-06 06:59 am UTC (link)
BTW, when's the deadline for the next Drink Tank. I know I promised you an absinthe column or six. I'm just a bit fuzzy on the deadline. ;)

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[info]johnnyeponymous
2008-05-06 02:29 pm UTC (link)
The next issue probably won't be out until next week. I do it weekly, so anytime you got something, the wait's usually pretty short!
Chris

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[info]thebarpilot
2008-05-09 03:40 am UTC (link)
(Ahem) Johanna, was that absinthe column not promised to Science Fiction/San Francisco, sometime in the wee hours at Costume-Con? (I remember every detail. I wore gray vinyl; you wore black...)

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[info]britgeekgrrl
2008-05-09 03:42 am UTC (link)
I honestly can't remember who I promised it to. Feel free to fight it out, kids. :)

(although I suspect that you're right)

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[info]johnnyeponymous
2008-05-09 03:45 pm UTC (link)
Well, since I edit both of them, and since SF/SF probably needs more content, I think that's where it belongs!
Chris

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[info]thebarpilot
2008-05-09 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Very wise, considering that your Copy Editor is a Klingon.
Actually, I think the best solution is two absinthe pieces -- the one with the Local Angle goes in SF/SF, the other in The Drink Tank, Johanna gets more exposure (!), everybody's happy.

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[info]britgeekgrrl
2008-05-09 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Johanna gets more exposure (!)

*ahem*

Like I need more! :)

Do me a favor, dudes? Drop me a line - johanna.mead(at)gmail(dot)com reminding me of the addresses at which you want the stuff flung? I'll try to bash something out over the weekend.

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[info]chaase_chase47
2008-05-10 02:32 pm UTC (link)
That would be amazing.

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[info]trinsf
2008-05-12 05:07 am UTC (link)
http://www.uneetee.com/category/productInfo.asp?idx=141 , BTW. Mexican thumb wrestling.

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